Comments on: Video – Fr. Peter Damian – The Golden Thread #8: The Condition of our First Parents – Adam & Eve https://dev.airmaria.com/2008/08/08/video-fr-peter-damian-the-golden-thread-8-the-condition-of-our-first-parents-adam-eve/ Breathe Freely Tue, 08 May 2018 15:55:55 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0 By: DamianSv https://dev.airmaria.com/2008/08/08/video-fr-peter-damian-the-golden-thread-8-the-condition-of-our-first-parents-adam-eve/comment-page-1/#comment-24048 Sat, 16 Aug 2008 09:06:10 +0000 http://www.airmaria.com/?p=1735#comment-24048 And if Mary had no child birth pains , even though in revelation she labored assuming for the creation/birth of the church and not the birth of jesus her son , the natural order here doesnt apply not because of sin apart from death , or because of something to do with christ walking through the closed doors at pentecost but
it must be because
she was virgin before during and after the birth.

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By: DamianSv https://dev.airmaria.com/2008/08/08/video-fr-peter-damian-the-golden-thread-8-the-condition-of-our-first-parents-adam-eve/comment-page-1/#comment-24047 Sat, 16 Aug 2008 08:45:19 +0000 http://www.airmaria.com/?p=1735#comment-24047 Do you know if Christ was not crucified/murdered and betrayed by one of his own/rejected by his people, if he would have died a natural death to pass the reigns to Peter and the papacy ? I think even in light of the transfiguration with Peter, James and John that he would have subjected himself to this natural death.
And I’m guessing his mother would have died not from a broken/pierced heart or from the sins of the world/others but from the natural order and herself being a creature.
They merited death , but did not deserve it.

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